For Bar‑Lawyers Only: Living in the Dark

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Pattaya is overbuilt — yet they keep building. Construction sites everywhere! It’s crazy.

All these buildings: half‑empty. Many units unsold.

“Never, ever buy property in Thailand. The weather’s too warm. The Thais don’t even speak English. And the food? Way too spicy! Can I have another beer, please? What time does Happy Hour finish?”

2 Farang in Pattaya bar with a Thai woman

Don’t we all know them?
The bar-lawyer army. The grumpy & negative keyboard-warriors on social media?
“Property Experts”, pur sang?


Facts:

  • They keep building.
  • Buildings (seem) half empty.
  • The weather is warm.
  • Thais speak better English than most of us speak Thai.
  • Thai food can be spicy.
  • Happy hour never finishes if you have a smile on your face.


1 Bedroom units The new standard of Pattaya condo

The Condo Boom

For more than a decade, the Pattaya real estate market showed blooming sales — mostly condos in resort‑style “waterpark” lagoon projects.

Average room size? Starting from 25ish square metres upwards.

In some developments, a 25–30 sqm room would be marketed as a glamorous 1‑bedroom unit. To join this “desirable and privileged world” you’d invest from roughly ฿ 1 million [€ 26,000 | $ 32,000 | £ 23,000].

For comparison: a covered parking lot in central Amsterdam will set you back € 89,000 — nearly ฿ 3.4 million — plus € 150 (฿ 5,700) monthly service fee.

Bedroom condo Interior

Bigger = Better?

Maybe. But also more expensive.

Higher construction costs mean higher sales prices. A logical step to reduce price — and widen your audience — is to create smaller units.

What’s “small”? An average 5‑star hotel room is 32–34 sqm, yet with smart layouts they feel bigger.

Holiday Inn Express on Soi Buakhao? 19 sqm. The new 5‑star Marriott Courtyard in Wong Amat? Starts at 35 sqm.

When Town & Country Property built The Residence Jomtien (2007), studios were 51 sqm. In today’s Pattaya property market, that could easily be a 2‑bedroom apartment…

The condo layout

Why Sell Smaller Units Cheap?

It’s a numbers game. There are more buyers with ฿ 1 million to spend than buyers with ฿ 5 million.

But are they really “cheap”?

Example: Chapter One ECO Ratchada – Huaikwang (Bangkok), 1,844 units sold out, starting at ฿ 2.89 million. That’s ฿ 120,000 per sqm for 24 sqm units — 30% higher than other projects in the same area.

From a developer’s point of view: selling small units at an affordable starting price can be very lucrative. Do the math.

Night Pattaya city

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Who’s buying? Most “affordable” mini‑apartments (shoeboxes) go to:

  • Foreigners who frequently visit Thailand

  • Thai starters buying into projects from LPN or Q‑House with attractive bank mortgages

Many units sit empty most of the year, bought as an “alternative hotel room”. Frequent travellers use their own apartment whenever they’re in Thailand. Pure convenience.

Shoe box

Living in the Dark

Pass a condo resort‑style project at night and you might see a huge building with just a few lights on. “Living in the dark.”

Condo in central Pattaya

Any Concerns?

Not really. Nobody bought these units as “buy‑to‑let” investments — only for personal use.

Inflation? Deflation? No one worries — units were bought with disposable cash, cheaper than a parking lot back home.

 

And They Keep Building…

True. But developers don’t build without sales.

A high‑rise takes 2–3 years to complete. Once enough sales are achieved and the chart is dotted with “sold” stickers, money’s in the bank — construction begins. COVID or not.

Is there anybody “left in the dark”?
Any more questions? No?
Happy Hour can continue!


Author: Mr. KC Cuijpers

For more information: Please contact Town & Country Property – [email protected]

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5 thoughts on “For Bar‑Lawyers Only: Living in the Dark”

  • Logan

    Hya, reading this article has put a smile on my face.
    It was funny how you referred to the “bar-lawyers” of Pattaya.
    I live in the Soi BuaKauw area and wander around on a daily basis.
    I bought a condo behind the avenue in City Garden (same the photo here) and from there it is easy to walk anywhere in town. My friends would call these farrang residents of Pattaya city the cheap charlies of town and you have no idea how many of them there are. Now with covid it even gets worse as all of them are complaining about everything. lol Anyway: Thanks for the article: it is 100 % spot on.
    I personally believe living in Pattaya is great – otherwise I would not be here and move back to Canada. The info on these smaller units in condo projects is very interesting – I was lucky to buy a bigger unit few years back. I am actually now looking for a house on your website and think of moving to east Pattaya. Friends of mine live there and it is very nice. I was surprised what value for money you have there in comparison to a condo in Central Pattaya.
    I am thinking of 2-3 bedrooms and a private pool – I made a few inquiries already and I am reading your reply as we speak. Some nice properties you have there. Thanks L

    • TownCountryPropetry.com

      Hi Logan, thank you for your nice feedback on our article.
      It might reflect “daily life” downtown for some. Where I live, in East Pattaya, the scenery is slightly different.
      But you already discovered that when you were visiting your friends. Good residential areas, not far from the beach and the city of Pattaya are East Pattaya, Mabprachan Lake, Huay Yai, Na Jomtien, Baan Amphur, and Bang Saray.
      The Baan Amphur and Bang Saray locations might be a bit too far out for some, but others love it there as it is so laid-back. Very different from Pattaya city.
      And there is a great collection of homes available in any style and budget. I am looking forward to working with you Logan!

    • Alexander

      Bar lawyers – Cheap Charlies…
      Funny, another group we always called them balloon chasers. The guys in and around soi Bua Kau and soi 7 that were looking for birthday parties in any bar possible. (Balloons outside)
      I am hoping to go back to Thailand again soon. I love living in Pattaya as there is so much to do and it is nice. Hopefully, I can buy a nice condo in Central Pattaya. Or perhaps even a house with a pool (my dream). When I was working in real estate before, we sold nice homes in Huay Yai. Not expensive and of good quality. Since my old company closed, I visit this website often and I hope one day I can select one of the properties available on it. Greetings from Russia!

  • Aiden

    I know what you are saying here. And thanks for explaining it, especially about the few lights in a big project if you drive past one of those condo projects in Wong Amart, Jomtien, or Pattaya.
    It all makes sense to me finally. Do you think the hotels will suffer in Pattaya because so many tourists now actually have their own apartment and won’t be using a hotel anymore?

    • TownCountryPropetry.com

      Hello Aiden, thanks for your kind feedback. I am not sure about the hospitality industry here in the region of Pattaya.
      We still see new hotels being built. So, there is a sheer bit of confidence there.
      I believe that Pattaya will remain its position as the most favorable tourist destination in Thailand.
      Not only visitors from abroad but also domestic “tourists” must be taken into account.
      Time will tell?

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